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		<title>My Three And A Half Month Facebook Job Interview</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Against the tide of Silicon Valley&#8217;s job layoffs, Facebook&#8217;s CEO Mark Zuckerberg was quoted late August 2009 &#8212; in a number of media outlets that referred to a Bloomberg report &#8212; as planning to hire as many as 500 new staff members in 2009.  While the number hired din&#8217;t turn out to be that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.allfacebook.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/job-interview.gif" alt="Job Interview Icon" title="Job Interview Icon" width="300" height="200" align='right' />Against the tide of Silicon Valley&#8217;s job layoffs, Facebook&#8217;s CEO Mark Zuckerberg was quoted late August 2009 &#8212; in a number of media outlets that referred to a <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&amp;sid=a3QZ4e4QvV5Y" >Bloomberg report</a> &#8212; as planning to hire as many as 500 new staff members in 2009.  While the number hired din&#8217;t <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/facebook-says-hiring-wont-be-fast-paced/" >turn out to be that much</a>, I was one of the fortunate people who managed to snag a series of interviews in Q3 &amp; Q4 of 2009. Here&#8217;s a summary of my overall interview experience.<br />
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<h1>Job Details, Interview Experience, and Speculations</h1>
<p>First off, I&#8217;m not sure how many people Facebook actually hired in 2009, though I do not believe they were anywhere close to their reported quota. But they hired at least one person, and it wasn&#8217;t me. Now, it would be foolish of me to reveal too many details about the position I was interviewing for, but I&#8217;ll reveal what I&#8217;m comfortable with:</p>
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<li>The position was contract-to-hire, roughly six months, with a possible extension afterwards but no guarantee of a full-time position.</li>
<li>During that period, I probably wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to create my own outside Facebook applications. However, my would-be-colleague didn&#8217;t know the answer and the HR person didn&#8217;t answer. So I suspended working on my in-progress apps and doing any writing about Facebook for my clients for most of the latter half of 2009, losing out on earnings I badly needed.
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<li>The position was NOT for a software engineer. I would be joining a team of one, despite the need for a small team, at least from my perspective as a Facebook user and developer (hint hint). I would have worked with numerous engineers and product managers as necessary. I didn&#8217;t officially need coding skills, but it wouldn&#8217;t hurt.
</li>
</ol>
<p>My work background in tech is quite varied &#8212; a necessity of the market (Toronto, Canada) that I spent most of my career in &#8212; a market that did not necessarily subscribe to the idea that having multiple skills is a bad thing. As such, I am fortunate to have a combination of coding, database, business analysis, writing and inbound/social media marketing skills. The career culture here in California seems quite different than even the rest of the USA (what I know of it), let alone Toronto. I&#8217;m also used to &#8220;asking for the job,&#8221; if the interview is going well and the job would be exciting. But that&#8217;s not easy to do here given how many layers of interviews there are. Needless to say, it didn&#8217;t work out at Facebook, despite being told by the HR person that I was &#8220;still in the running.&#8221; (Several friends and family members telling me they felt I was being strung along, I didn&#8217;t want to believe such a thing &#8212; and still don&#8217;t. There are all kinds of legitimate reasons for my experience.)</p>
<h2>My Facebook Interview Experience</h2>
<p>I can only speculate as to why so many layers of job interviews seem to be required here in California &#8212; possibly because this is an &#8220;at will&#8221; state. That means you can quit a job without notice, and also get fired without notice. Given the cost of hiring and training a new employee to fill a vacancy, it&#8217;s understandable that potential candidates are given a gauntlet of interviews. I&#8217;ve heard of colleagues going through as many as eleven sets of interviews with some of the older web-based giants &#8212; especially for manager roles &#8212; and even waiting as long 8-12 months for an offer. I&#8217;m just not used to that.</p>
<p>Thankfully, I only went through about 3.5 months of waiting overall, though the last six weeks was a period of radio silence, followed by an email that said something to the effect of &#8220;thanks but we&#8217;ve filled the position.&#8221; No other pleasantries, not even a &#8220;we&#8217;ll keep you on file for future opportunities.&#8221;</p>
<p>How did I get an interview in the first place, when so many people are out of work and not even getting interviews? I&#8217;d like to think that it&#8217;s due to my extensive and varied skills, but admittedly, I have a &#8220;network&#8221; connection to a Facebook employee. This person, whom I know in real-life, saw the position listed, sent me a message via my Facebook inbox, and asked if I was interested. He then submitted my resume internally. That got me into the interview process a lot faster, though my resume (i.e., collective skills &amp; experience) is what kept me in the running. Here&#8217;s a summary of the experience:</p>
<ol>
<li>Started with a half-hour phone interview around mid-August 2009, ending with the HR person saying that they thought I was what they were looking for, and that they&#8217;d be in touch.
</li>
<li>Was given a relevant coding and writing assignment, from my would-be teammate, to be completed within a week.
</li>
<li>Got a longer phone interview a few weeks later with my would-be teammate and an engineer who didn&#8217;t know that he was supposed to ask me any questions. Despite the role in question (non-engineer), the latter person asked me quite technical questions, some of which seemed irrelevant to the position. (Speculation by friends and colleagues is that I was asked simply because my resume shows a great deal of technical background.) This phone interview also involved a surprise quiz, via a special web page. I had to type in the algorithm (aka &#8220;pseudocode&#8221;) for a coding problem, via a special web form. The interviewers could see my code simultaneously and test it (had it been real web code).
</li>
<li>Waited for weeks and weeks, with my would-be teammate answering my emails the best he could and the HR person barely answering anything.</li>
<li>Finally got a three-hour, in-person interview with four people in early October. This seemed to be going fine for the first few hours, but one interviewer (non-engineer) seemed intent on finding on some sort of flaw with my personality.</li>
<li>After six more weeks of waiting, I received a &#8220;thanks but no thanks&#8221; email. During that time, I was told to be patient while they did &#8220;due diligence&#8221; with other candidates. (I have no idea how many people I was up against.)
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<p>After the three-hour interview session, I became pragmatic, knowing that I had positives to takeaway from the whole experience, even if I didn&#8217;t get the position.</p>
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<img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2728/4272985057_2de4a7fb3b.jpg" /><br />
<strong>Photo credit</strong><a rel="cc:attributionURL" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/quinnanya/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/quinnanya/</a> / <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/">CC BY-SA 2.0</a>
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<h1>What I Learned From My Facebook Interviews</h1>
<p>I recently discussed the California work culture with a young colleague whose parents work as managers at a big tech company. Between their advice and my experience, here is what I learned:</p>
<ol>
<li>Even if a certain skill is not going to be required for role you&#8217;re interviewing for, you might still get asked related questions. That&#8217;s especially true if the skill is listed on your resume. The positive way to look at this is that you might be considered for another position.</li>
<li>Some interview questions are designed to get you to say &#8220;I don&#8217;t know,&#8221; and that is actually the right thing to say. That&#8217;s a far better response than lying or making something up. The fact is that in a real work situation, you would have various resources available to you that wouldn&#8217;t be present in an interview, and interviewers generally understand that. (I stated that my coding skills needed refreshing, that I was limited to responding in pseudocode rather than real computer code, and they agreed albeit subtly.)</li>
<li>Not all HR people have their act together, no matter how pleasant they are. In retrospect, I should have continued to work on my Facebook apps and writing. Lesson: Don&#8217;t wait. Continue on with your life.
</li>
<li>Months of waiting for an offer or even any answer is the norm, not the exception, in Silicon Valley. Maybe I&#8217;m even lucky I received a response?
</li>
</ol>
<p>While the free meals from the Facebook cafeteria in Palo Alto &#8212; and all the other perks &#8212; would have been nice, I&#8217;m not sure the perks would have been offered to a contract-for-hire. Overall, I&#8217;m probably too old for the Facebook culture, who mostly seemed to be in their late 20s/ early 30s. (My would-be-teammate seemed the only exception, though it&#8217;s not like I met the entire staff.) Participating in their Hackathons doing all-night coding (or whatever) is something I might have done during college or a select few years afterwards. Now, I like to have a life outside work.</p>
<p>My greatest takeaway: I learned a great deal about the Facebook APIs, which I studied fairly intensively during the 3.5-month waiting period. I&#8217;ve used the knowledge gained to continue working on numerous Facebook apps of my own &#8212; many of which support other projects non-Facebook projects in progress &#8212; none of which I would not have been able to do were I hired on at Facebook. building. Despite that some of the APIs have changed recently, the net result of the interview process is that I have a deeper understanding of how Facebook.com functions, and that helps me both as a user and an app designer and developer.</p>
<p><em>Job interview photo credit: <a rel="cc:attributionURL" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnjoh/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnjoh/</a> / <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/">CC BY-SA 2.0</a></em></p>

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